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World sabaki challenge 20124/16/2023 ![]() ![]() Time limit on the ground (Yes, this is a pro in my book :icon_chee ) Space helmet to keep the participants' faces intact I'm sure we'd all agree that each has it's pro's and it's con's. So from THAT aforementioned perspective I'd say that Kudo is a little better than The Sabaki Challenge when the pro's of each are weighed against the con's of each. But I am more speaking from the perspective of the combatants who participate in the two fighting styles/competitions. ![]() Sorry, long rant on minor technicalities.Ĭlick to expand.From strictly a spectator sport POV I agree with you. In kyokushin you can get half a point for a sweep with follow-up, but since you are not allowed to grab the opponent, throwing is hard (and I have never actually SEEN a sweep with follow-up getting rewarded with a point score, even if it is in the rules). Enshin took the concept and made it more messy by having the win at 7 points, with knockdowns scoring 4 points and sweeps scoring 1 point, and a good throw(with follow-up) scoring 3 points (and 2 points without followup) -or something like that, I forget the specifics.īasically both are just minor variations of kyokushin (which both the founder of ashihara, and his student who would later found Enshin, trained together until 1980) with one handed grabs allowed, and throws scored for. Enshin Sabaki allows a bit longer grab-hold than Ashihara.Įnshin sticks to the halfpoints/fullpoint system from kyokushin (with a full point = win, and a good throw with followup scored as a half point). There is not really that much difference between the two rulesets used in the two styles. Here is a Enshin karate Sabaki challenge in EuropeĪshihara karate (from which enshin splintered out, back in 1988) has its own Sabaki tournaments.Īlthough they do not call it Sabaki challenge since a few years, as it has developed into the world Sabaki championship So you wont ever see a Thai style clinch with hands round both sides of the head, but it's not one handed grabbing.Click to expand.You are thinking of the sabaki challenge arranged by Enshin karate in Denver (and it is still going, but it is not as big as it once were).īut it is no longer the only enshin karate "sabaki Challenge". If you look at Mitlov's video the padwork section shows a grab by the tricep and hook round the neck to pull the opponent round and down before knee striking for example. He can obviously give you a better opinion than my limited experience.Īs always, the best option is to go and train!Īs I remember it the rule is you can only grab one side. My sensei may see this and have chance to respond, though he isn't on MAP very often. Bear in mind that the Sabaki challenge is open to all styles, not just Enshin guys, so it's not a closed shop (as I understand it). But Enshin is good, solid training based on knockdown kumite with a broader ruleset. It's not pure self-defence training, it's not MMA or kyokushin knockdown or anything else, it is, as you said, definitely Enshin. Plus there is the constant emphasis on moving to the blind spot positions to gain advantage. How much is done outside that will presumable depend on the sensei. There is plenty of anti clinch and anti-grab training done, within the context of Enshin sparring. So you wont ever see a Thai style clinch with hands round both sides of the head, but it's not one handed grabbing. I have always had a hard time getting the two to connect.Ĭlick to expand.As I remember it the rule is you can only grab one side. Also I like the fact that it teaches flow from striking to take downs. It looks like it lends itself very well to BJJ cross training. I know these guys are tough, but from what I have seen, I worry how the skills translates to a SD situation with no rules. ![]() Always doing the no contact finishing move at the end. My concern is that like my art, TKD (which has its own rule set), when watching Enshin Sabaki Challanges online Enshin looks like Enshin. I see that Enshin comes from Kyokushin, which is well respected in the ma community. She likes the idea that you hit, get hit, learn to throw and have some iron body style training. We are going to a class to check it out this week. My wife, who is currently studying Kung Fu would like to cross train in it. ![]()
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